Ancestry of my grandparents - Jenny Goodman (1881-1971) And Joe Mokobocki (1884-1981). They were born and raised in Poland, met and married in Warsaw, and then emigrated to England, Canada, and finally the US (1908). There are no Polish records of Joe's family but quite a few of Jenny's. Jenny's parents were Yankel and Shaindel (Esther) Handelsman. Yankel's parents were David Gutman and Temma Haneft. Esther's parents were David Handelsman and Perla Kava.
Wednesday, July 15, 2020
The Gutman Sisters - Rosa and Gittel
I know two living descendants of Rosa (1868-1941) and Gittel (1854-?). One is Gittel's great-granddaughter Linda Edelstein of San Francisco. The other is Michele Akerberg of France who is a great-granddaughter of both Rosa and Gittel. Gittel's daughter Masha Migdal married Rosa's son Josef Ackerberg, the parents of Michele's father Leon Akerberg (1914-1987). So Leon's grandmothers were sisters.
Ancestry.com is how Linda and I became acquainted. Her family tree had Gittel Migdal and her husband Shmul Migdal in it. Gittel had many children, who were in both of our trees. Linda did not know that Gutman was Gittel's maiden name or that she was from Kock.
MyHeritage.com is how Michele and I became acquainted. Our family trees overlapped with Gittel and Shmul and descendents. She knew they married in Kock. She also had Rosa Gutman in her tree but had nothing more about when and where she lived or who her parents were. However she had Ackerberg as her married name.
For my part I found many records of the Gutman family of Kock in the Polish State Archives which are online. The 1870 marriage of Gittel and Shmul is one of them. Gittel's parents were Moshe Gutman and Sara nee Tannenbaum. There is no record of Rosa's birth but there is a record of her death, and her husband's, in Warsaw in 1941 at the hands of the Nazis. On the yadvashem web site there is a record of their death which clearly shows Rosa to have been the daughter of Moshe and Sara, thus Gittel's sister. Below is an excert.
https://yvng.yadvashem.org/nameDetails.html?language=en&itemId=1831591&ind=0
"Roiza Akerberg nee Gutman was born in Kock, Poland in 1868 to Moshe and Sara. She was a housewife and married to Herszel. Prior to WWII she lived in Warszawa, Poland. During the war she was in Warszawa, Poland.
Roiza was murdered in the Shoah.
This information is based on a Page of Testimony (displayed here) submitted by her niece, Neta Avigdor Akhituv"
Merci pour cet article qui parle de mes ancêtres.
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DeleteHi there, I am wondering what sort of information you have on Wolf Gutman from Kock (c. 1780-1844), patronym Ickowicz, married to Fraida, b. circa 1785, don't know death date. Wolf was a duchowny (cleric) in Kock, and I found a record of my 6th great grandfather, Dawid Miodek (c. 1780-1843) from Kock, appointing him as a plenipotentiary. They are mentioned in a lot of civil records together so I think they were friends :) I also saw that Wolf's wife Fraida's patronym was mentioned as Josfowicz in one record, though other patronyms are mentioned later on, but Dawid's patronym was also Josfowicz so I wonder if they were brothers in law!
ReplyDeleteBonjour, je n'ai pas d'information à votre demande. Cordialement
DeleteI know little about Wolf Gutman. His brother Ber was my 3xgreatgrandfather. Wolf presided over many (maybe most) of the Kock weddings 1826-1844. First record of Wolf in Kock is 1824, 1827 for Ber Gutman. No trace of either anywhere else in Lublin 1810-1823. Dawid Miodek, tavern keeper, was a witness to the 1831 birth of Wolf's son Josef Hersz. No occurence of the surname Miodek in Kock records for 1817-1825. I know nothing about Dawid Miodek but if he appears often as a witness that would be interesting.
DeleteAddenda: Wolf Gutman also presided at Dawid Miodek's 1832 wedding. First record of Dawid Miodek in Kock is from 1819. Both men were publicans. Perhaps Dawid Miodek influenced Wolf Gutman to move to Kock, and also, later on, Mendel Morgenstern. Do you have any ideas about that? Feel free to email me at rpullman at gmail.com
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